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WinGet List/Install Orders Seldom Match

If you run winget upgrade --all --include-unknown regularly, you have probably noticed something odd. The packages listed in the upgrade table rarely install in the order they appear. I hit this recently on my ThinkPad X12 Hybrid Tablet, where six packages needed attention: Google Chrome, Microsoft Teams, MiniTool Partition Wizard Free, Oh My Posh, Patch My PC Home Updater, and Windows App. They were listed in one sequence but installed in a noticeably different one. The explanation stems from WinGet’s dependency resolver. It’s worth understanding, and explains why WinGet list and install orders seldom match each other.

Why Do WinGet List/Install Orders Seldom Match?

As you can see in the lead-in screencap, the upgrade table that WinGet displays before installation is sorted alphabetically by package display name — that is the first (Name) column, not the Id column. It’s purely cosmetic: WinGet queries its source index, collects available updates, and orders the results for human readability. The order in that table carries no weight when determining which package installs first. Think of it as a shopping list arranged by aisle label, not a build sequence.

Install Order Shows a Dependency Graph

Before the first installer touches the PC, WinGet’s dependency resolution engine reads every package manifest in the upgrade set. It constructs a directed acyclic graph (DAG) of declared dependencies. Next, it runs a topological sort namedGetInstallationOrder() on the winget source. That produces an install sequence where no package arrives before its pre-reqs are satisfied. This re-ordered queue need not follow name or ID order.

The X12 Hybrid Tablet Run

In the screencap, you see the raw WinGet output from a recent run on the X12 Hybrid Tablet. Six packages are available, listed in alphabetical order by display name — Chrome, Teams, MiniTool, Oh My Posh, Patch My PC, Windows App. The three declared VCLibs and Windows App Runtime dependencies follwing that list reinforce that notion that other elements than those that appear are in the mix. In the end, the actual install order was MiniTool Partition Wizard, Patch My PC…, Chrome, Teams, Windows App, and finally, Oh-My-Posh.

When List Order and Install Order Do Align

Occasionally the two sequences match — but that is coincidence, not design. It happens when none of the packages in the upgrade set declare inter-package dependencies and WinGet’s internal queue order happens to mirror alphabetical sequence. As soon as one package declares a dependency on another — or on a shared runtime — the topological sort reshuffles the queue and the coincidence evaporates.

A Practical Takeaway

No need to manage this manually. Winget’s dependency resolver handles the sequencing reliably. Indeed, fighting it with flags like --skip-dependencies is rarely worth the risk. Tyring to drive this yourself, you might end up with a package that installs against a runtime version it does not actually support. Trust the DAG, watch the dependency notice block that appears before the first installer fires, and you will get a clear picture of why the WinGet upgrade install order looks the way it does.

Next time you notice that WinGet installs packages out of listing order, check the dependency notice block at the top of the install run. That block is where WinGet “shows its work.” That’s where the topological sort result gets laid out in plain text. It is one of those quiet, well-engineered behaviors that rewards users who take a moment to read the output carefully.

Further proof of my earlier contention (see this June 27 post) that “WinGet knows more than it says.” I think so, but you can make  your own judgement. Here in Windows-World, there’s plenty of room for multiple takes on what’s REALLY going on. This is mine…and I’m sticking to it!

 

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WinGet Upgrade Knows More Than It Says

In running through my usual morning Winget Upgrade drill, I noticed that it found 3 upgrades, but applied only 2. As you can see in the lead-in screencap, it concluded its efforts with a line that reads “1 package(s) have upgrades blocked because newer versions use a different install technology…” To me, this means that WinGet Upgrade knows more than it says, because process of elimination reveals that Microsoft Edge is the missing item.

Why Say: WinGet Upgrade Knows More Than It Says

Microsoft Edge is deeply embedded into the Windows 11 OS.  Indeed, Windows 11 uses WebView 2 as a system component. That also powers the Settings app, widgets, Copilot, Teams, Outlook (new), the MS Store, and more. That’s why Edge usually updates more easily from within its own UI anyway.

In this particular case, something about the install technology changed moving from Version 149.0.4022.96 to Version 149.0.4022.98. That forces WinGet to keep its mitts off, unless users uninstall the old and then install the new in two separate operations.

I elected to jump into the app, do the upgrade, then returned to Windows Terminal to run WinGet Upgrade –all –include-unknown again. As you can see in the lead-in graphic (if you right-click that image to display it in its own browser tab), with Edge manually updated already beforehand, the next check returns “No installed package found matching input criteria.” In WinGet parlance that means “no items need updating here.”

In Windows-World, what you see can sometimes tell you more than what your app or tool output tells you. This is a definite illustration, and explains why I assert that the Windows package manager (i.e. WinGet) and its upgrade facility knows more than it says. Cheers!

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Patch Tuesday Delivers Odd Recycle Bin Glitch

Take a look at the lead-in graphic. It shows the File Explorer listing for a recently deleted file in Recycle Bin, with the confirmation dialog below. Notice the original filename is Update-UEFI.bat (above) but the confirmation identifies that file as $RXE56IL.bat. All Windows versions with the June 9 updates show such a changed file name. Hence my claim that Patch Tuesday delivers odd recycle bin glitch.

What Patch Tuesday Delivers Odd Recycle Bin Glitch Means

Two things. First, something is exposing the internal filenames that the Recycle Bin always employs to users. Second, the glitch is benign. You can go ahead and confirm the deletions, even though the name appears to point at something unknown and unrelated. It’s just another little Windows glitch. Fortunately, it’s nothing to worry about.

You can read more about it in the Windows 11, June 2026 Issues List. The relevant item is entitled “Deleting a file from the Recycle Bin displays an internal filename in the dialog.” It ties the issue to KB5095051. MS also says further:

We are working to release a resolution in a future Windows update and will provide more information when it is available.

Not Much to See; Go About Your Business

While interesting and possibly amusing or annoying, depending on your inclination, this little glitch doesn’t appear to pose any threats. Even though the name has changed, the recycle bin functions as it always has. As you can see from the lead-in screencap, you can keep things straight by dropping the confirmation dialog atop the File Explorer window in which Recycle Bin is open.

Just another brick in the wall, I guess, here in Windows World. It gave me a chuckle, though. I hope you find it likewise diverting. Cheers!

Note Added 1+ Hours Later…

Just saw Kevin Okemwa’s story at Windows Central right now. It’s equally odd that he and I would come up with nearly identical titles for our coverage of this topic independently. Have to give props and recognition to observe this occurred by coincidence, not copying.

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WinGet Copilot CLI Update Gets Interesting

By design, the WinGet package manager is pretty conservative about working on apps that are running. With Copilot now active on my desktop most of the time, and even accessible in Windows Terminal (or rather, Intelligent Terminal) this goes double. Yesterday, in fact, my attempt at a WinGet Copilot CLI upgrade gets interesting when it fails with an “access denied” error message. Let’s figure this out, and apply a dead-easy fix.

What to Do When WinGet Copilot CLI Update Gets Interesting

You can see the first Winget failure, the fix, and a successful upgrade in series in the lead-in screencap. That fix provides a way to get Copilot out of the way so WinGet can do its thing without the possibility of messing anything up. Figure that Copilot is nearly always on my systems these days into your consideration and the runtime context.

That fix is:

Stop-Process -Name Copilot -Force -ErrorAction SilentlyContinue

Now, let me explain what’s going on, and this fix does the trick.

Why the First WinGet Upgrade Failed

The root cause is straightforward Windows behavior. The operating system won’t let any process overwrite a running executable. If you had an active terminal session that loaded the Copilot CLI — or any background shell or process that previously invoked it — the old copilot.exe is locked. The installer cannot swap in the new binary, so it fails, and reports explanatory error info.

This is not a WinGet bug. But WinGet could arguably handle it more gracefully. It could detect running processes before the upgrade begins and warn the user. Instead, it downloads everything, then fails at the last step. That may be disconcerting, or perhaps even frustrating, but it’s easily fixed.

The Fix: Kill All Copilot Processes, Then Retry

The fix is a two-step sequence. First, kill any running Copilot processes. Then retry the WinGet upgrade. In PowerShell, do that by running these two commands in sequence:

Stop-Process -Name copilot -Force -ErrorAction SilentlyContinue
winget upgrade GitHub.Copilot

[Note the first two lines are actually a one-liner with a spillover resulting from local formatting; run as a single command.] That’s what the screenshot at the top of this post illustrates. The first command runs cleanly even if no matching process exists. The
-ErrorAction SilentlyContinue flag does that by design and intent.

The second winget upgrade command then finds the package again, verifies the hash, extracts the archive, and this time completes successfully. You will see two confirmations appear: “Overwriting existing file” for the WinGet Links path, and “Command line alias added: ‘copilot’.” Then, finally: “Successfully installed.”

Noteworthy Postscript

A couple of additional observations from this experience deserve mention. First, note that Copilot CLI lists Microsoft.PowerShell (version 7.0.0 or later) as a required dependency. If you have not yet upgraded to PowerShell 7.x, WinGet may attempt to pull that in first. In this case, PowerShell 7.6.2.0 was already current, so that dependency check passed instantly.

Second, if you run WinGet from within VS Code’s integrated terminal, Windows Terminal, or any shell that has previously invoked gh copilot, (gh = GitHub, and is the target for copilot requests in a shell environment) you may hit this exact error. Opening a completely fresh PowerShell window before running the upgrade is often enough to sidestep the issue entirely. In that case, no Stop-Process is needed.

Third, this pattern is not unique to Copilot CLI. Any WinGet-managed package that ships as a standalone executable can run into this same locked-file problem during upgrades. Ditto for Web browsers (e.g. Chrome, Edge, Firefox, etc.) which many users, including your humble correspondent, tend to leave running all the time. For browsers the update may fail, it may not run at all, or you may need to “Relaunch” the browser so the updater applies that change file.

A Predictable Bump in the Road

WinGet is a solid package manager. It delivers smooth, hands-off upgrades nearly all the time. When it stumbles — as it did here — its error messages are descriptive enough for a quick diagnosis and fix.

One command to kill the offending process, a second WinGet command to retry, and you’re done. It is a minor contortion, but now you know that two-step. Here in Windows World, it’s good to keep tools current. To that end, don’t let a transient file lock slow you down. Fixed!

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GNUBG Shows WinGet Pin Rationale

Since Monday, I’ve noticed that WinGet is updating GNU Backgammon every day, aka GNUBG. You can see in the lead-in graphic this happens because the app reports its version number as unknown. Of course, that means WinGet wants to update it, even though that’s unnecessary. How to avoid this unwanted repetition: the WinGet Pin command. Thus, GNUBG shows WinGet Pin rationale, and lets me turn down the noise.

How GNUBG Shows WinGet Pin Rationale

The lead-in graphic also shows that the current installed GNU Backgammon version matches the one that WinGet wants to install. That proves it’s a reporting error from the app itself, not the typical “current version is less than winget database version” that supplies a usually valid reason to run the update process.

Obviously, this will go on until (or if) the developers fix the game, or until a real, new version comes out. So here’s what I did to stop the madness: I ran winget pin –id GNU.gnubg

Once pinned, WinGet stops its repeated GNUBG updates. Good!
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I’ve seldom had to use WinGet Pin on the PC fleet here at Chez Tittel. But every now and then — as with GNUBG here — something pops up that calls for a timeout. Now, I just have to remember to keep an eye on the app so I can unpin or force-update when a REAL one shows up. That’s just one of the small things that keeps me on my toes, here in Windows-World.

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Resuming Work After Week-long Absence

OK, then. We dropped onto the runway about 20 minutes early last evening. Wife Dina and I returned from a trip to Boston, to watch son Gregory trot across the stage at Emerson College’s Wang Theater to pick up his diploma and graduate. It was quite a trip in many ways. This morning, I’m back at my desk, resuming work after week-long absence. So far, it’s mostly two things: catch-up and clean-up. Let me explain…

What’s Involved: Resuming Work After Week-long Absence

Here’s the drill:
1. run winget upgrade –all — include-unknown to catch all pending updates that winget can handle (7 items)
2. run PatchMyPC Home Updater to catch other stuff that WinGet doesn’t (Revo Uninstaller, in this particular case)
3. run PC Manager deep cleanup (3.2GB found/1.1 GB cleaned) and unCleaner (2.5 GB found, 2.1 GB cleaned)
4. Because today is Patch Tuesday for May 2026, I also applied all pending monthly updates (2 for Defender, 1 for .NET Framework, and the usual monthly MSRT).

All that stuff is pretty easy and straightforward. I did have to reboot, though, because updates via WinGet and PatchMyPC didn’t proceed properly. Something apparently gummed up my runtime. Fixed with the tried-and-true strategy of “Try a reboot, if Windows is balky.” Add a second restart after the Patch Tuesday updates completed, just for grins.

Now, the Real Work Begins…

Next I have to plow through about a thousand email messages that piled up while were off having fun and making family history. That will probably take me the rest of the day. Then I can start updating the rest of the fleet. Wish me luck!

To cap things off, here’s a photo of Gregory proudly presenting his diploma amidst absolute chaos on Boston Common (across the street from Emerson College) after the ceremony ended. Cheers to him, and all of us!

 

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Timing WinGet’s Update Pipeline

OK then, I just read at WinAero that a new PowerToys v0.99.0 is out. Checking via WinGet upgrade in PowerShell it’s not yet in the pipeline. Nevertheless, the app itself is happy to grab said update from its GitHub repository, as you can see in the lead-in graphic. I’m now conducting an experiment. I’ll be checking hourly as I work at my desk, to see when that new PowerToys version comes into WinGet’s ken. Should be interesting…

What’s Involved in Timing WinGet’s Update Pipeline?

Behind the scenes, lots of things must happen before WinGet catches up, and offers the PowerToys update:
1. MS publishes the new release on GitHub (that’s done)
2. A Pull Request (PR) is sent to winget-pkgs with info about the new version, URLs, hash values, and so forth (usually automated)
3. Pull Request validation runs: automated checks verify installer hashes, check URL resolution, and validate manifest schema
4. Pull request merges into the WinGet source: a maintainer approves the package and merges it into the public database
5. WinGet CDN propagates: the updated database index appears via the winget source in related commands (show, install, uninstall, etc.)

How Long Does It Take?

Because PowerToys comes from Microsoft, its timeline is about as short as such things get. Turnaround normally takes no less than 12 hours, nor more than 48 depending on timing. If a weekend gets in the way the delay can stretch out. Ditto if issues with the manifest show themselves, or if the software being packaged shows a bug. Thus, for example, PowerToys v.0.99 has a Command Palette crash bug, and may be slowed to accommodate suitable hotfix.

We’ll see how this one goes. There’s already a new V0.99.1 version on GitHub (which includes that very hotfix). It’s in the WinGet pipeline now: let’s see how long it takes to get through, shall we?

Note Added 1:05 Later…It’s HERE!

The original post went up at 1:05PM local time. It’s now 2:10PM and a check on the P16 Gen 1 Mobile Workstation produces the following WinGet output: It’s here…

Notice that version 0.99.1 is on offer. That means the PowerToys team got its hotfixes into the package before sending it off to WinGet. Good job, @ClintRutkas and team. I am impressed.

And, now that I’m running it on the suitably-configured X380 Yoga, I see that the PowerToys upgrade also flashes an icon. Impressed again:

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Firefox Update Fixes Weird Cursor Ripple

I’ve got to admit, I was misled this morning. After updating my NVIDIA Studio driver for the 3070Ti GPU, I noticed a strange “ripple” behavior around the on-screen cursor in Firefox. This occurred as I was scrolling inside today’s new posts and threads at ElevenForum.com. After reloading the graphics driver (WinKey+Shift+Ctrl+B), no change. So I asked Copilot: “Do I need to reboot?” “Nope,” it responded, “a Firefox update fixes weird cursor ripple” thanks to a fix for a DirectComposition code path error when using NVIDIA cards. It worked!

How Firefox Update Fixes Weird Cursor Ripple

A well-advised principle in troubleshooting relies on answering the question “What changed?” That’s what had me ready to blame the new NVIDIA driver as soon as Firefox got wonky. After taking advice from Copilot, I noticed further that the cursor ripple was indeed limited only to Firefox. It didn’t show up in Chrome or Edge, nor in other Windows apps. If it had been the GPU driver, all would have been affected.

Thus, I’m glad I thought to ask Copilot rather than start rebooting or rolling back the driver. Turns out the cause was obvious, indeed, but related to the specific program I was running as it interacted with the NVIDIA driver. Here in Windows-World, it’s wise not to overlook the obvious. But it’s also wise to cast a wider net, so as not to blame the obvious when something else could be — and in this particular case, was — at fault.

All’s well that ends well. I’m happily using my updated system. And Firefox — where I usually work to create this WordPress content — is working correctly now, too. Bonus: updating the browser is much faster than a driver rollback, and faster than a reboot. Good-oh!

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Pondering UEFI Updates

I’m still getting settled in with my new production desktop environment. ICYDK, it’s built around an MSI MAG Tomahawk B550 mobo, with Ryzen 5800X, NVIDIA 3070Ti GPU, and 64GB DDR4 RAM. This morning, I started digging into the MSI Center app that orchestrates other system utilities, and handles updates for drivers and firmware. In my investigation, I discovered a “new” update for the mobo firmware. In turn, that has me pondering UEFI updates.

Where Does Pondering UEFI Updates Take Me?

I had to figure out that MSI’s once-standalone “Live Update” utility now sits beneath its top-level Support tab (top middle of option bar in the lead-in graphic). Then I had to figure out that UEFI updates appear only when one clicks the “Advanced” button, rather than the more pedestrian “Scan” button (which scans only for driver updates).

As  you can see in that graphic, the company shares its guidance in eye-catching red text at the head of the MB BIOS list. That guidance reads: “MSI does not recommend to update BIOS when system has no issue” in somewhat fractured English. However rough the wording might be, the guidance is still pretty good. Let me explain…

If It Ain’t Broke, Don’t Fix It!

The reason why I recently rebuilt my Flo6 desktop stemmed from UEFI problems with the previous ASRock B550 Extreme4 mobo. It kept sticking halfway between Secure Boot old/updated data sets. That resulted in extreme boot requirements, when I might sometimes have to reset CMOS just to get the PC to boot.

Most of the time I had to shut it down, and cut power, then wait a while to bring it back to life. That went on for weeks before I made the switch to the MSI board. Since then, boot and update operations have been blissfully boring. Things just work, and I can use all of the various boot options and related keyboard options to do exactly what I want.

Reading over Copilot’s summary of what UEFI v2.A0 brings me, as compared to the running v2.90, I don’t see anything I need. Nor do I see anything that would improve Flo6’s currently rock-solid and dependable, fully caught-up Secure Boot Status.

Hence my decision: I’m not going to update. Nothing is causing problems. Everything is working dependably and reliably. Secure Boot is golden. This time, I’ll pass… Maybe next time?

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Intel Graphics DSA Update Weirdness

It’s strange. I just got a notification on the Lenovo ThinkPad X12 Hybrid tablet that Intel DSA had 3 updates pending: Bluetooth, Graphics and Wi-Fi. Of the three, BT and Wi-Fi went swimmingly. The graphics update, however, hung in unexpected ways. That’s how I found myself fixing Intel Graphics DSA update weirdness minutes ago. The trick is fortuitous, as I’ll explain…

Overcoming Intel Graphics DSA Update Weirdness

I have kind of a built-in timer when it comes to waiting for Windows installs to finish up. If an installer shows a progress bar, and I see no progress at all for 5 minutes, I start getting antsy. At 10 minutes, I pull the plug and kill the installer to see what happens.

Killing an installer may take varying degrees of effort. The Intel Graphics installer was well-enough behaved to respond to the “close window” controls at its upper right corner. In other, more stubborn cases, I’ve been known to resort to Task Manager, where I’ll find and kill the installer process itself. Sigh.

Imagine my surprise when the DSA installer reported success in installing the new Graphics driver. Seems that their current installer had finished, but simply neglected to update the UI to report said progress.

As Luck Would Have It…

My impatience spurred me into doing exactly the right thing. I’ve had other Windows installers hang, where killing the installer meant I had to start over and install again. In some more extreme cases, I first had to clean up the leftovers from the hung installer before a new install would work. That’s where a tool like Revo Uninstaller (in “Hunter Mode”) can be helpful: if you can find a UI trace left behind –such as the DSA notification tray icon — you can use it to help you clean up.

All I can say is “Thank goodness no cleanup was needed.” Here in Windows-World, when things get messy, they can really suck up some serious time. I ran into that last Monday, when WinGet in my primary MSA got profoundly bollixed. Go figure!

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